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I'm working on training neural networks without backpropagation / automatic differentiation, using locally derived analytic forms of update rules. Given that this allows a direct formula to be derived for the update rule, it removes alot of the overhead that is otherwise required from automatic differentiation.
However, matlab's functionalities for neural networks are currently solely based around backpropagation and automatic differentiation, such as the dlgradient function and requiring everything to be dlarrays during training.
I have two main requests, specifically for functions that perform a single operation within a single layer of a neural network, such as "dlconv", "fullyconnect", "maxpool", "avgpool", "relu", etc:
- these functions should also allow normal gpuArray data instead of requiring everything to be dlarrays.
- these functions are currently designed to only perform the forward pass. I request that these also be designed to perform the backward pass if user requests. There can be another input user flag that can be "forward" (default) or "backward", and then the function should have all the necessary inputs to perform that operation (e.g. for "avgpool" forward pass it only needs the avgpool input data and the avgpool parameters, but for the "avgpool" backward pass it needs the deriviative w.r.t. the avgpool output data, the avgpool parameters, and the original data dimensions). I know that there is a maxunpool function that achieves this for maxpool, but it has significant issues when trying to use it this way instead of by backpropagation in a dlgradient type layer, see (https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/2179587-making-a-custom-way-to-train-cnns-and-i-am-noticing-that-avgpool-is-significantly-faster-than-maxpo?s_tid=srchtitle).
I don't know how many people would benefit from this feature, and someone could always spend their time creating these functionalities themselves by matlab scripts, cuDNN mex, etc., but regardless it would be nice for matlab to have this allowable for more customizable neural net training.
Inspired by @xingxingcui's post about old MATLAB versions and @유장's post about an old Easter egg, I thought it might be fun to share some MATLAB-Old-Timer Stories™.
Back in the early 90s, MATLAB had been ported to MacOS, but there were some interesting wrinkles. One that kept me earning my money as a computer lab tutor was that MATLAB required file names to follow Windows standards - no spaces or other special characters. But on a Mac, nothing stopped you from naming your script "hello world - 123.m". The problem came when you tried to run it. MATLAB was essentially doing an eval on the script name, assuming the file name would follow Windows (and MATLAB) naming rules.
So now imagine a lab full of students taking a university course. As is common in many universities, the course was given a numeric code. For whatever historical reason, my school at that time was also using numeric codes for the departments. Despite being told the rules for naming scripts, many students would default to something like "26.165 - 1.1" for problem one on HW1 for the intro applied math course 26.165.
No matter what they did in their script, when they ran it, MATLAB would just say "ans = 25.0650".
Nothing brings you more MATLAB-god credibility as a student tutor than walking over to someone's computer, taking one look at their output, saying "rename your file", and walking away like a boss.
It was 2010 when I was a sophomore in university. I chose to learn MATLAB because of a mathematical modeling competition, and the university provided MATLAB 7.0, a very classic release. To get started, I borrowed many MATLAB books from the library and began by learning simple numerical calculations, plotting, and solving equations. Gradually I was drawn in by MATLAB’s powerful capabilities and became interested; I often used it as a big calculator for fun. That version didn’t have MATLAB Live Script; instead it used MATLAB Notebook (M-Book), which allowed MATLAB functions to be used directly within Microsoft Word, and it also had the Symbolic Math Toolbox’s MuPAD interactive environment. These were later gradually replaced by Live Scripts introduced in R2016a. There are many similar examples...
Out of curiosity, I still have screenshots on my computer showing MATLAB 7.0 running compatibly. I’d love to hear your thoughts?
Edit 15 Oct 2025: Removed incorrect code. Replaced symmatrix2sym and symfunmatrix2symfun with sym and symfun respectively (latter supported as of 2024b).
The Symbolic Math Toolbox does not have its own dot and and cross functions. That's o.k. (maybe) for garden variety vectors of sym objects where those operations get shipped off to the base Matlab functions
x = sym('x',[3,1]); y = sym('y',[3,1]);
which dot(x,y)
dot(x,y)
which cross(x,y)
cross(x,y)
clearvars
x = symmatrix('x',[3,1]); y = symmatrix('y',[3,1]);
z = symmatrix('z',[1,1]);
sympref('AbbreviateOutput',false);
dot() expands the result, which isn't really desirable for exposition.
eqn = z == dot(x,y)
Also, dot() returns the the result in terms of the conjugate of x, which can't be simplifed away at the symmatrix level
assumeAlso(sym(x),'real')
class(eqn)
try
eqn = z == simplify(dot(x,y))
catch ME
ME.message
end
To get rid of the conjugate, we have to resort to sym
eqn = simplify(sym(eqn))
but again we are in expanded form, which defeats the purpose of symmatrix (et. al.)
But at least we can do this to get a nice equation
eqn = z == x.'*y
dot errors with symfunmatrix inputs
clearvars
syms t real
x = symfunmatrix('x(t)',t,[3,1]); y = symfunmatrix('y(t)',t,[3,1]);
try
dot(x,y)
catch ME
ME.message
end
Cross works (accidentally IMO) with symmatrix, but expands the result, which isn't really desirable for exposition
clearvars
x = symmatrix('x',[3,1]); y = symmatrix('y',[3,1]);
z = symmatrix('z',[3,1]);
eqn = z == cross(x,y)
And it doesn't work at all if an input is a symfunmatrix
syms t
w = symfunmatrix('w(t)',t,[3,1]);
try
eqn = z == cross(x,w);
catch ME
ME.message
end
In the latter case we can expand with
eqn = z == cross(sym(x),symfun(w)) % x has to be converted
But we can't do the same with dot (as shown above, dot doesn't like symfun inputs)
try
eqn = z == dot(sym(x),symfun(w))
catch ME
ME.message
end
Looks like the only choice for dot with symfunmatrix is to write it by hand at the matrix level
x.'*w
or at the sym/symfun level
sym(x).'*symfun(w) % assuming x is real
Ideally, I'd like to see dot and cross implemented for symmatrix and symfunmatrix types where neither function would evaluate, i.e., expand, until both arguments are subs-ed with sym or symfun objects of appropriate dimension.
Also, it would be nice if symmatrix could be assumed to be real. Is there a reason why being able to do so wouldn't make sense?
try
assume(x,'real')
catch ME
ME.message
end
Automating Parameter Identifiability Analysis in SimBiology
Is it possible to develop a MATLAB Live Script that automates a series of SimBiology model fits to obtain likelihood profiles? The goal is to fit a kinetic model to experimental data while systematically fixing the value of one kinetic constant (e.g., k1) and leaving the others unrestricted.
The script would perform the following:
Use a pre-configured SimBiology project where the best fit to the experimental data has already been established (including dependent/independent variables, covariates, the error model, and optimization settings).
Iterate over a defined sequence of fixed values for a chosen parameter.
For each fixed value, run the estimation to optimize the remaining parameters.
Record the resulting Sum of Squared Errors (SSE) for each run.
The final output would be a likelihood profile—a plot of SSE versus the fixed parameter value (e.g., k1)—to assess the practical identifiability of each model parameter.
Something that I periodically wonder about is whether an integration with the Rubi integration rules package would improve symbolic integration in Matlab's Symbolic Toolbox. The project is open-source with an MIT-licensed, has a Mathematica implementation, and supposedly SymPy is working on an implementation. Much of my intrigue comes from this 2022 report that compared the previous version of Rubi (4.16.1) against various CAS systems, including Matlab 2021a (Mupad):
While not really an official metric for Rubi, this does "feel" similar to my experience computing symbolic integrals in Matlab Symbolic Toolbox vs Maple/Mathematica. What do y'all think?
Do you have a swag signed by Brian Douglas? He does!
Have you ever been enrolled in a course that uses an LMS and there is an assignment that invovles posting a question to, or answering a question in, a discussion group? This discussion group is meant to simulate that experience.
I came across this fun video from @Christoper Lum, and I have to admit—his MathWorks swag collection is pretty impressive! He’s got pieces I even don’t have.
So now I’m curious… what MathWorks swag do you have hiding in your office or closet?
- Which one is your favorite?
- Which ones do you want to add to your collection?
Show off your swag and share it with the community! 🚀
The functionality would allow report generation straight from live scripts that could be shared without exposing the code. This could be useful for cases where the recipient of the report only cares about the results and not the code details, or when the methodology is part of a company know how, e.g. Engineering services companies.
In order for it to be practical for use it would also require that variable values could be inserted into the text blocks, e.g. #var_name# would insert the value of the variable "var_name" and possibly selecting which code blocks to be hidden.
I saw this YouTube short on my feed: What is MATLab?
I was mostly mesmerized by the minecraft gameplay going on in the background.
Found it funny, thought i'd share.
Trinity
- It's the question that drives us, Neo. It's the question that brought you here. You know the question, just as I did.
Neo
- What is the Matlab?
Morpheus
- Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matlab is. You have to see it for yourself.
And also later :
Morpheus
- The Matlab is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can feel it when you go to work [...]
The Architect
- The first Matlab I designed was quite naturally perfect. It was a work of art. Flawless. Sublime.
[My Matlab quotes version of the movie (Matrix, 1999) ]
Modern engineering requires both robust hardware and powerful simulation tools. MATLAB and Simulink are widely used for data analysis, control design, and embedded system development. At the same time, Kasuo offers a wide range of components—from sensors and connectors to circuit protection devices—that engineers rely on to build real-world systems.
By combining these tools, developers can bridge the gap between simulation and implementation, ensuring their designs are reliable and ready for deployment.
Example Use Case: Sensor Data Acquisition and Processing
- Kasuo Hardware Setup
- Select a Kasuo sensor (e.g., temperature, microphone, or motion sensor).
- Connect it to a DAQ or microcontroller board for data collection.
- Data Acquisition in MATLAB
- Use MATLAB’s Data Acquisition Toolbox to stream sensor data directly.
- Example snippet:
s = daq("ni");
addinput(s,
"Dev1", "ai0", "Voltage");
data = read(s, seconds(
5), "OutputFormat", "Matrix");
plot(data);
- Signal Processing with Simulink
- Build a Simulink model to filter noise, detect anomalies, or design control logic.
- Simulink enables real-time visualization and iterative tuning.
- Validation & Protection Simulation
- Add Kasuo’s circuit protection components (e.g., TVS diodes, surge suppressors) in the physical design.
- Use Simulink to simulate stress conditions, validating system robustness before hardware testing.
Benefits of the Workflow
- Faster prototyping with MATLAB & Simulink.
- Greater reliability by incorporating Kasuo protection devices.
- Seamless transition from model to hardware implementation.
Conclusion
Kasuo’s electronic components provide the hardware foundation for many embedded and signal processing applications. When combined with MATLAB and Simulink, engineers can design, simulate, and validate systems more efficiently—reducing risks and development time.
With AI agents dev coding on other languages has become so easy.
Im waiting for matlab to build something like warp but for matlab.
I know they have the current ai but with all respect it's rubbish compared to vibe coding tools in others sectors.
Matlab leads AI so it really should be leading this space.
I designed and stitched this last week! It uses a total of 20 DMC thread colors, and I frequently stitched with two colors at once to create the gradient.
When you compare MATLAB Plot Gallery with matplotlib gallery, you can see that matplotlib gallery contains a lot of nice graphs which are easy to create in MATLAB but not listed in MATLAB Plot Gallery.
For example, "Data Distribution Plots" section in the MATLAB Plot Gallery includes example for pie function instead of examples for piechart and donutchart functions, etc.
mlapp being a binary is a pain point for source control. It means that you either have to:
- have hooks in your source control system to zip/unzip a mlapp. However, The Mathworks have informed users not to rely on this as the mlapp format may change.
- do all your source control in MATLAB. This is non standard behaviour. Source code and source control should be independent of each other. Web front-ends to source control systems, 3rd party source control apps, CI/CD systems and much more are extremely limited in what they can do with mlapps.
I wish an mlapp could just be a directory full of the required text/other files.
Requested to post this here from reddit.
There is no call to rescan audio devices in audioPlayerRecorder, even though PortAudio has such a call. I have a measurement environment that takes a long time to initialise. If I forget to plug in my audio device, I have to do it all over again...
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