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Hi everyone
I've been using ThingSpeak for several years now without an issue until last Thursday.
I have four ThingSpeak channels which are used by three Arduino devices (in two locations/on two distinct networks) all running the same code.
All three devices stopped being able to write data to my ThingSpeak channels around 17:00 CET on 4 Dec and are still unable to.
Nothing changed on this side, let alone something that would explain the problem.
I would note that data can still be written to all the channels via a browser so there is no fundamental problem with the channels (such as being full).
Since the above date and time, any HTTP/1.1 'update' (write) requests via the REST API (using both simple one-write GET requests or bulk JSON POST requests) are timing out after 5 seconds and no data is being written. The 5 second timeout is my Arduino code's default, but even increasing it to 30 seconds makes no difference. Before all this, responses from ThingSpeak were sub-second.
I have recompiled the Arduino code using the latest libraries and that didn't help.
I have tested the same code again another random api (api.ipify.org) and that works just fine.
Curl works just fine too, also usng HTTP/1.1
So the issue appears to be something particular to the combination of my Arduino code *and* the ThingSpeak environment, where something changed on the ThingSpeak end at the above date and time.
If anyone in the community has any suggestions as to what might be going on, I would greatly appreciate the help.
Peter
In a recent blog post, @Guy Rouleau writes about the new Simulink Copilot Beta. Sign ups are on the Copilot Beta page below. Let him know what you think.
Guy's Blog Post - https://blogs.mathworks.com/simulink/2025/12/01/a-copilot-for-simulink/
Simulink Copilot Beta - https://www.mathworks.com/products/simulink-copilot.html
The formula comes from @yuruyurau. (https://x.com/yuruyurau)
digital life 1
figure('Position',[300,50,900,900], 'Color','k');
axes(gcf, 'NextPlot','add', 'Position',[0,0,1,1], 'Color','k');
axis([0, 400, 0, 400])
SHdl = scatter([], [], 2, 'filled','o','w', 'MarkerEdgeColor','none', 'MarkerFaceAlpha',.4);
t = 0;
i = 0:2e4;
x = mod(i, 100);
y = floor(i./100);
k = x./4 - 12.5;
e = y./9 + 5;
o = vecnorm([k; e])./9;
while true
t = t + pi/90;
q = x + 99 + tan(1./k) + o.*k.*(cos(e.*9)./4 + cos(y./2)).*sin(o.*4 - t);
c = o.*e./30 - t./8;
SHdl.XData = (q.*0.7.*sin(c)) + 9.*cos(y./19 + t) + 200;
SHdl.YData = 200 + (q./2.*cos(c));
drawnow
end
digital life 2
figure('Position',[300,50,900,900], 'Color','k');
axes(gcf, 'NextPlot','add', 'Position',[0,0,1,1], 'Color','k');
axis([0, 400, 0, 400])
SHdl = scatter([], [], 2, 'filled','o','w', 'MarkerEdgeColor','none', 'MarkerFaceAlpha',.4);
t = 0;
i = 0:1e4;
x = i;
y = i./235;
e = y./8 - 13;
while true
t = t + pi/240;
k = (4 + sin(y.*2 - t).*3).*cos(x./29);
d = vecnorm([k; e]);
q = 3.*sin(k.*2) + 0.3./k + sin(y./25).*k.*(9 + 4.*sin(e.*9 - d.*3 + t.*2));
SHdl.XData = q + 30.*cos(d - t) + 200;
SHdl.YData = 620 - q.*sin(d - t) - d.*39;
drawnow
end
digital life 3
figure('Position',[300,50,900,900], 'Color','k');
axes(gcf, 'NextPlot','add', 'Position',[0,0,1,1], 'Color','k');
axis([0, 400, 0, 400])
SHdl = scatter([], [], 1, 'filled','o','w', 'MarkerEdgeColor','none', 'MarkerFaceAlpha',.4);
t = 0;
i = 0:1e4;
x = mod(i, 200);
y = i./43;
k = 5.*cos(x./14).*cos(y./30);
e = y./8 - 13;
d = (k.^2 + e.^2)./59 + 4;
a = atan2(k, e);
while true
t = t + pi/20;
q = 60 - 3.*sin(a.*e) + k.*(3 + 4./d.*sin(d.^2 - t.*2));
c = d./2 + e./99 - t./18;
SHdl.XData = q.*sin(c) + 200;
SHdl.YData = (q + d.*9).*cos(c) + 200;
drawnow; pause(1e-2)
end
digital life 4
figure('Position',[300,50,900,900], 'Color','k');
axes(gcf, 'NextPlot','add', 'Position',[0,0,1,1], 'Color','k');
axis([0, 400, 0, 400])
SHdl = scatter([], [], 1, 'filled','o','w', 'MarkerEdgeColor','none', 'MarkerFaceAlpha',.4);
t = 0;
i = 0:4e4;
x = mod(i, 200);
y = i./200;
k = x./8 - 12.5;
e = y./8 - 12.5;
o = (k.^2 + e.^2)./169;
d = .5 + 5.*cos(o);
while true
t = t + pi/120;
SHdl.XData = x + d.*k.*sin(d.*2 + o + t) + e.*cos(e + t) + 100;
SHdl.YData = y./4 - o.*135 + d.*6.*cos(d.*3 + o.*9 + t) + 275;
SHdl.CData = ((d.*sin(k).*sin(t.*4 + e)).^2).'.*[1,1,1];
drawnow;
end
digital life 5
figure('Position',[300,50,900,900], 'Color','k');
axes(gcf, 'NextPlot','add', 'Position',[0,0,1,1], 'Color','k');
axis([0, 400, 0, 400])
SHdl = scatter([], [], 1, 'filled','o','w',...
'MarkerEdgeColor','none', 'MarkerFaceAlpha',.4);
t = 0;
i = 0:1e4;
x = mod(i, 200);
y = i./55;
k = 9.*cos(x./8);
e = y./8 - 12.5;
while true
t = t + pi/120;
d = (k.^2 + e.^2)./99 + sin(t)./6 + .5;
q = 99 - e.*sin(atan2(k, e).*7)./d + k.*(3 + cos(d.^2 - t).*2);
c = d./2 + e./69 - t./16;
SHdl.XData = q.*sin(c) + 200;
SHdl.YData = (q + 19.*d).*cos(c) + 200;
drawnow;
end
digital life 6
clc; clear
figure('Position',[300,50,900,900], 'Color','k');
axes(gcf, 'NextPlot','add', 'Position',[0,0,1,1], 'Color','k');
axis([0, 400, 0, 400])
SHdl = scatter([], [], 2, 'filled','o','w', 'MarkerEdgeColor','none', 'MarkerFaceAlpha',.4);
t = 0;
i = 1:1e4;
y = i./790;
k = y; idx = y < 5;
k(idx) = 6 + sin(bitxor(floor(y(idx)), 1)).*6;
k(~idx) = 4 + cos(y(~idx));
while true
t = t + pi/90;
d = sqrt((k.*cos(i + t./4)).^2 + (y/3-13).^2);
q = y.*k.*cos(i + t./4)./5.*(2 + sin(d.*2 + y - t.*4));
c = d./3 - t./2 + mod(i, 2);
SHdl.XData = q + 90.*cos(c) + 200;
SHdl.YData = 400 - (q.*sin(c) + d.*29 - 170);
drawnow; pause(1e-2)
end
digital life 7
clc; clear
figure('Position',[300,50,900,900], 'Color','k');
axes(gcf, 'NextPlot','add', 'Position',[0,0,1,1], 'Color','k');
axis([0, 400, 0, 400])
SHdl = scatter([], [], 2, 'filled','o','w', 'MarkerEdgeColor','none', 'MarkerFaceAlpha',.4);
t = 0;
i = 1:1e4;
y = i./345;
x = y; idx = y < 11;
x(idx) = 6 + sin(bitxor(floor(x(idx)), 8))*6;
x(~idx) = x(~idx)./5 + cos(x(~idx)./2);
e = y./7 - 13;
while true
t = t + pi/120;
k = x.*cos(i - t./4);
d = sqrt(k.^2 + e.^2) + sin(e./4 + t)./2;
q = y.*k./d.*(3 + sin(d.*2 + y./2 - t.*4));
c = d./2 + 1 - t./2;
SHdl.XData = q + 60.*cos(c) + 200;
SHdl.YData = 400 - (q.*sin(c) + d.*29 - 170);
drawnow; pause(5e-3)
end
digital life 8
clc; clear
figure('Position',[300,50,900,900], 'Color','k');
axes(gcf, 'NextPlot','add', 'Position',[0,0,1,1], 'Color','k');
axis([0, 400, 0, 400])
SHdl{6} = [];
for j = 1:6
SHdl{j} = scatter([], [], 2, 'filled','o','w', 'MarkerEdgeColor','none', 'MarkerFaceAlpha',.3);
end
t = 0;
i = 1:2e4;
k = mod(i, 25) - 12;
e = i./800; m = 200;
theta = pi/3;
R = [cos(theta) -sin(theta); sin(theta) cos(theta)];
while true
t = t + pi/240;
d = 7.*cos(sqrt(k.^2 + e.^2)./3 + t./2);
XY = [k.*4 + d.*k.*sin(d + e./9 + t);
e.*2 - d.*9 - d.*9.*cos(d + t)];
for j = 1:6
XY = R*XY;
SHdl{j}.XData = XY(1,:) + m;
SHdl{j}.YData = XY(2,:) + m;
end
drawnow;
end
digital life 9
clc; clear
figure('Position',[300,50,900,900], 'Color','k');
axes(gcf, 'NextPlot','add', 'Position',[0,0,1,1], 'Color','k');
axis([0, 400, 0, 400])
SHdl{14} = [];
for j = 1:14
SHdl{j} = scatter([], [], 2, 'filled','o','w', 'MarkerEdgeColor','none', 'MarkerFaceAlpha',.1);
end
t = 0;
i = 1:2e4;
k = mod(i, 50) - 25;
e = i./1100; m = 200;
theta = pi/7;
R = [cos(theta) -sin(theta); sin(theta) cos(theta)];
while true
t = t + pi/240;
d = 5.*cos(sqrt(k.^2 + e.^2) - t + mod(i, 2));
XY = [k + k.*d./6.*sin(d + e./3 + t);
90 + e.*d - e./d.*2.*cos(d + t)];
for j = 1:14
XY = R*XY;
SHdl{j}.XData = XY(1,:) + m;
SHdl{j}.YData = XY(2,:) + m;
end
drawnow;
end
% Recreation of Saturn photo
figure('Color', 'k', 'Position', [100, 100, 800, 800]);
ax = axes('Color', 'k', 'XColor', 'none', 'YColor', 'none', 'ZColor', 'none');
hold on;
% Create the planet sphere
[x, y, z] = sphere(150);
% Saturn colors - pale yellow/cream gradient
saturn_radius = 1;
% Create color data based on latitude for gradient effect
lat = asin(z);
color_data = rescale(lat, 0.3, 0.9);
% Plot Saturn with smooth shading
planet = surf(x*saturn_radius, y*saturn_radius, z*saturn_radius, ...
color_data, ...
'EdgeColor', 'none', ...
'FaceColor', 'interp', ...
'FaceLighting', 'gouraud', ...
'AmbientStrength', 0.3, ...
'DiffuseStrength', 0.6, ...
'SpecularStrength', 0.1);
% Use a cream/pale yellow colormap for Saturn
cream_map = [linspace(0.4, 0.95, 256)', ...
linspace(0.35, 0.9, 256)', ...
linspace(0.2, 0.7, 256)'];
colormap(cream_map);
% Create the ring system
n_points = 300;
theta = linspace(0, 2*pi, n_points);
% Define ring structure (inner radius, outer radius, brightness)
rings = [
1.2, 1.4, 0.7; % Inner ring
1.45, 1.65, 0.8; % A ring
1.7, 1.85, 0.5; % Cassini division (darker)
1.9, 2.3, 0.9; % B ring (brightest)
2.35, 2.5, 0.6; % C ring
2.55, 2.8, 0.4; % Outer rings (fainter)
];
% Create rings as patches
for i = 1:size(rings, 1)
r_inner = rings(i, 1);
r_outer = rings(i, 2);
brightness = rings(i, 3);
% Create ring coordinates
x_inner = r_inner * cos(theta);
y_inner = r_inner * sin(theta);
x_outer = r_outer * cos(theta);
y_outer = r_outer * sin(theta);
% Front side of rings
ring_x = [x_inner, fliplr(x_outer)];
ring_y = [y_inner, fliplr(y_outer)];
ring_z = zeros(size(ring_x));
% Color based on brightness
ring_color = brightness * [0.9, 0.85, 0.7];
fill3(ring_x, ring_y, ring_z, ring_color, ...
'EdgeColor', 'none', ...
'FaceAlpha', 0.7, ...
'FaceLighting', 'gouraud', ...
'AmbientStrength', 0.5);
end
% Add some texture/gaps in the rings using scatter
n_particles = 3000;
r_particles = 1.2 + rand(1, n_particles) * 1.6;
theta_particles = rand(1, n_particles) * 2 * pi;
x_particles = r_particles .* cos(theta_particles);
y_particles = r_particles .* sin(theta_particles);
z_particles = (rand(1, n_particles) - 0.5) * 0.02;
% Vary particle brightness
particle_colors = repmat([0.8, 0.75, 0.6], n_particles, 1) .* ...
(0.5 + 0.5*rand(n_particles, 1));
scatter3(x_particles, y_particles, z_particles, 1, particle_colors, ...
'filled', 'MarkerFaceAlpha', 0.3);
% Add dramatic outer halo effect - multiple layers extending far out
n_glow = 20;
for i = 1:n_glow
glow_radius = 1 + i*0.35; % Extend much farther
alpha_val = 0.08 / sqrt(i); % More visible, slower falloff
% Color gradient from cream to blue/purple at outer edges
if i <= 8
glow_color = [0.9, 0.85, 0.7]; % Warm cream/yellow
else
% Gradually shift to cooler colors
mix = (i - 8) / (n_glow - 8);
glow_color = (1-mix)*[0.9, 0.85, 0.7] + mix*[0.6, 0.65, 0.85];
end
surf(x*glow_radius, y*glow_radius, z*glow_radius, ...
ones(size(x)), ...
'EdgeColor', 'none', ...
'FaceColor', glow_color, ...
'FaceAlpha', alpha_val, ...
'FaceLighting', 'none');
end
% Add extensive glow to rings - make it much more dramatic
n_ring_glow = 12;
for i = 1:n_ring_glow
glow_scale = 1 + i*0.15; % Extend farther
alpha_ring = 0.12 / sqrt(i); % More visible
for j = 1:size(rings, 1)
r_inner = rings(j, 1) * glow_scale;
r_outer = rings(j, 2) * glow_scale;
brightness = rings(j, 3) * 0.5 / sqrt(i);
x_inner = r_inner * cos(theta);
y_inner = r_inner * sin(theta);
x_outer = r_outer * cos(theta);
y_outer = r_outer * sin(theta);
ring_x = [x_inner, fliplr(x_outer)];
ring_y = [y_inner, fliplr(y_outer)];
ring_z = zeros(size(ring_x));
% Color gradient for ring glow
if i <= 6
ring_color = brightness * [0.9, 0.85, 0.7];
else
mix = (i - 6) / (n_ring_glow - 6);
ring_color = brightness * ((1-mix)*[0.9, 0.85, 0.7] + mix*[0.65, 0.7, 0.9]);
end
fill3(ring_x, ring_y, ring_z, ring_color, ...
'EdgeColor', 'none', ...
'FaceAlpha', alpha_ring, ...
'FaceLighting', 'none');
end
end
% Add diffuse glow particles for atmospheric effect
n_glow_particles = 8000;
glow_radius_particles = 1.5 + rand(1, n_glow_particles) * 5;
theta_glow = rand(1, n_glow_particles) * 2 * pi;
phi_glow = acos(2*rand(1, n_glow_particles) - 1);
x_glow = glow_radius_particles .* sin(phi_glow) .* cos(theta_glow);
y_glow = glow_radius_particles .* sin(phi_glow) .* sin(theta_glow);
z_glow = glow_radius_particles .* cos(phi_glow);
% Color particles based on distance - cooler colors farther out
particle_glow_colors = zeros(n_glow_particles, 3);
for i = 1:n_glow_particles
dist = glow_radius_particles(i);
if dist < 3
particle_glow_colors(i,:) = [0.9, 0.85, 0.7];
else
mix = (dist - 3) / 4;
particle_glow_colors(i,:) = (1-mix)*[0.9, 0.85, 0.7] + mix*[0.5, 0.6, 0.9];
end
end
scatter3(x_glow, y_glow, z_glow, rand(1, n_glow_particles)*2+0.5, ...
particle_glow_colors, 'filled', 'MarkerFaceAlpha', 0.05);
% Lighting setup
light('Position', [-3, -2, 4], 'Style', 'infinite', ...
'Color', [1, 1, 0.95]);
light('Position', [2, 3, 2], 'Style', 'infinite', ...
'Color', [0.3, 0.3, 0.4]);
% Camera and view settings
axis equal off;
view([-35, 25]); % Angle to match saturn_photo.jpg - more dramatic tilt
camva(10); % Field of view - slightly wider to show full halo
xlim([-8, 8]); % Expanded to show outer halo
ylim([-8, 8]);
zlim([-8, 8]);
% Material properties
material dull;
title('Saturn - Left click: Rotate | Right click: Pan | Scroll: Zoom', 'Color', 'w', 'FontSize', 12);
% Enable interactive camera controls
cameratoolbar('Show');
cameratoolbar('SetMode', 'orbit'); % Start in rotation mode
% Custom mouse controls
set(gcf, 'WindowButtonDownFcn', @mouseDown);
function mouseDown(src, ~)
selType = get(src, 'SelectionType');
switch selType
case 'normal' % Left click - rotate
cameratoolbar('SetMode', 'orbit');
rotate3d on;
case 'alt' % Right click - pan
cameratoolbar('SetMode', 'pan');
pan on;
end
end
Hello,
I have Arduino DIY Geiger Counter, that uploads data to my channel here in ThingSpeak (3171809), using ESP8266 WiFi board. It sends CPM values (counts per minute), Dose, VCC and Max CPM for 24h. They are assignet to Field from 1 to 4 respectively. How can I duplicate Field 1, so I could create different time chart for the same measured unit? Or should I duplicate Field 1 chart, and how? I tried to find the answer here in the blog, but I couldn't.
I have to say that I'm not an engineer or coder, just can simply load some Arduino sketches and few more things, so I'll be very thankfull if someone could explain like for non-IT users.
Regards,
Emo
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It’s exciting to dive into a new dataset full of unfamiliar variables but it can also be overwhelming if you’re not sure where to start. Recently, I discovered some new interactive features in MATLAB live scripts that make it much easier to get an overview of your data. With just a few clicks, you can display sparklines and summary statistics using table variables, sort and filter variables, and even have MATLAB generate the corresponding code for reproducibility.
The Graphics and App Building blog published an article that walks through these features showing how to explore, clean, and analyze data—all without writing any code.
If you’re interested in streamlining your exploratory data analysis or want to see what’s new in live scripts, you might find it helpful:
If you’ve tried these features or have your own tips for quick data exploration in MATLAB, I’d love to hear your thoughts!
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Jorge Bernal-AlvizJorge Bernal-Alviz shared the following code that requires R2025a or later:
Test()
function Test()
duration = 10;
numFrames = 800;
frameInterval = duration / numFrames;
w = 400;
t = 0;
i_vals = 1:10000;
x_vals = i_vals;
y_vals = i_vals / 235;
r = linspace(0, 1, 300)';
g = linspace(0, 0.1, 300)';
b = linspace(1, 0, 300)';
r = r * 0.8 + 0.1;
g = g * 0.6 + 0.1;
b = b * 0.9 + 0.1;
customColormap = [r, g, b];
figure('Position', [100, 100, w, w], 'Color', [0, 0, 0]);
axis equal;
axis off;
xlim([0, w]);
ylim([0, w]);
hold on;
colormap default;
colormap(customColormap);
plothandle = scatter([], [], 1, 'filled', 'MarkerFaceAlpha', 0.12);
for i = 1:numFrames
t = t + pi/240;
k = (4 + 3 * sin(y_vals * 2 - t)) .* cos(x_vals / 29);
e = y_vals / 8 - 13;
d = sqrt(k.^2 + e.^2);
c = d - t;
q = 3 * sin(2 * k) + 0.3 ./ (k + 1e-10) + ...
sin(y_vals / 25) .* k .* (9 + 4 * sin(9 * e - 3 * d + 2 * t));
points_x = q + 30 * cos(c) + 200;
points_y = q .* sin(c) + 39 * d - 220;
points_y = w - points_y;
CData = (1 + sin(0.1 * (d - t))) / 3;
CData = max(0, min(1, CData));
set(plothandle, 'XData', points_x, 'YData', points_y, 'CData', CData);
brightness = 0.5 + 0.3 * sin(t * 0.2);
set(plothandle, 'MarkerFaceAlpha', brightness);
drawnow;
pause(frameInterval);
end
end
From my experience, MATLAB's Deep Learning Toolbox is quite user-friendly, but it still falls short of libraries like PyTorch in many respects. Most users tend to choose PyTorch because of its flexibility, efficiency, and rich support for many mathematical operators. In recent years, the number of dlarray-compatible mathematical functions added to the toolbox has been very limited, which makes it difficult to experiment with many custom networks. For example, svd is currently not supported for dlarray inputs.
This link (List of Functions with dlarray Support - MATLAB & Simulink) lists all functions that support dlarray as of R2026a — only around 200 functions (including toolbox-specific ones). I would like to see support for many more fundamental mathematical functions so that users have greater freedom when building and researching custom models. For context, the core MATLAB mathematics module contains roughly 600 functions, and many application domains build on that foundation.
I hope MathWorks will prioritize and accelerate expanding dlarray support for basic math functions. Doing so would significantly increase the Deep Learning Toolbox's utility and appeal for researchers and practitioners.
Thank you.
Run MATLAB using AI applications by leveraging MCP. This MCP server for MATLAB supports a wide range of coding agents like Claude Code and Visual Studio Code.
Check it out and share your experiences below. Have fun!
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I just learned you can access MATLAB Online from the following shortcut in your web browser: https://matlab.new
Thanks @Yann Debray
From his recent blog post: pip & uv in MATLAB Online » Artificial Intelligence - MATLAB & Simulink
Hey everyone,
I’m currently working with MATLAB R2025b and using the MQTT blocks from the Industrial Communication Toolbox inside Simulink. I’ve run into an issue that’s driving me a bit crazy, and I’m not sure if it’s a bug or if I’m missing something obvious.
Here’s what’s happening:
- I open the MQTT Configure block.
- I fill out all the required fields — Broker address, Port, Client ID, Username, and Password.
- When I click Test Connection, it says “Connection established successfully.” So far so good.
- Then I click Apply, close the dialog, set the topic name, and try to run the simulation.
- At this point, I get the following error:Caused by: Invalid value for 'ClientID', 'Username' or 'Password'.
- When I reopen the MQTT config block, I notice that the Password field is empty again — even though I definitely entered it before and the connection test worked earlier.
It seems like Simulink is somehow not saving the password after hitting Apply, which leads to the authentication error during simulation.
Has anyone else faced this? Is this a bug in R2025b, or do I need to configure something differently to make the password persist?
Would really appreciate any insights, workarounds, or confirmations from anyone who has used MQTT in Simulink recently.
Thanks in advance!
I'm working on training neural networks without backpropagation / automatic differentiation, using locally derived analytic forms of update rules. Given that this allows a direct formula to be derived for the update rule, it removes alot of the overhead that is otherwise required from automatic differentiation.
However, matlab's functionalities for neural networks are currently solely based around backpropagation and automatic differentiation, such as the dlgradient function and requiring everything to be dlarrays during training.
I have two main requests, specifically for functions that perform a single operation within a single layer of a neural network, such as "dlconv", "fullyconnect", "maxpool", "avgpool", "relu", etc:
- these functions should also allow normal gpuArray data instead of requiring everything to be dlarrays.
- these functions are currently designed to only perform the forward pass. I request that these also be designed to perform the backward pass if user requests. There can be another input user flag that can be "forward" (default) or "backward", and then the function should have all the necessary inputs to perform that operation (e.g. for "avgpool" forward pass it only needs the avgpool input data and the avgpool parameters, but for the "avgpool" backward pass it needs the deriviative w.r.t. the avgpool output data, the avgpool parameters, and the original data dimensions). I know that there is a maxunpool function that achieves this for maxpool, but it has significant issues when trying to use it this way instead of by backpropagation in a dlgradient type layer, see (https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/2179587-making-a-custom-way-to-train-cnns-and-i-am-noticing-that-avgpool-is-significantly-faster-than-maxpo?s_tid=srchtitle).
I don't know how many people would benefit from this feature, and someone could always spend their time creating these functionalities themselves by matlab scripts, cuDNN mex, etc., but regardless it would be nice for matlab to have this allowable for more customizable neural net training.
Inspired by @xingxingcui's post about old MATLAB versions and @유장's post about an old Easter egg, I thought it might be fun to share some MATLAB-Old-Timer Stories™.
Back in the early 90s, MATLAB had been ported to MacOS, but there were some interesting wrinkles. One that kept me earning my money as a computer lab tutor was that MATLAB required file names to follow Windows standards - no spaces or other special characters. But on a Mac, nothing stopped you from naming your script "hello world - 123.m". The problem came when you tried to run it. MATLAB was essentially doing an eval on the script name, assuming the file name would follow Windows (and MATLAB) naming rules.
So now imagine a lab full of students taking a university course. As is common in many universities, the course was given a numeric code. For whatever historical reason, my school at that time was also using numeric codes for the departments. Despite being told the rules for naming scripts, many students would default to something like "26.165 - 1.1" for problem one on HW1 for the intro applied math course 26.165.
No matter what they did in their script, when they ran it, MATLAB would just say "ans = 25.0650".
Nothing brings you more MATLAB-god credibility as a student tutor than walking over to someone's computer, taking one look at their output, saying "rename your file", and walking away like a boss.
It was 2010 when I was a sophomore in university. I chose to learn MATLAB because of a mathematical modeling competition, and the university provided MATLAB 7.0, a very classic release. To get started, I borrowed many MATLAB books from the library and began by learning simple numerical calculations, plotting, and solving equations. Gradually I was drawn in by MATLAB’s powerful capabilities and became interested; I often used it as a big calculator for fun. That version didn’t have MATLAB Live Script; instead it used MATLAB Notebook (M-Book), which allowed MATLAB functions to be used directly within Microsoft Word, and it also had the Symbolic Math Toolbox’s MuPAD interactive environment. These were later gradually replaced by Live Scripts introduced in R2016a. There are many similar examples...
Out of curiosity, I still have screenshots on my computer showing MATLAB 7.0 running compatibly. I’d love to hear your thoughts?
Edit 15 Oct 2025: Removed incorrect code. Replaced symmatrix2sym and symfunmatrix2symfun with sym and symfun respectively (latter supported as of 2024b).
The Symbolic Math Toolbox does not have its own dot and and cross functions. That's o.k. (maybe) for garden variety vectors of sym objects where those operations get shipped off to the base Matlab functions
x = sym('x',[3,1]); y = sym('y',[3,1]);
which dot(x,y)
dot(x,y)
which cross(x,y)
cross(x,y)
clearvars
x = symmatrix('x',[3,1]); y = symmatrix('y',[3,1]);
z = symmatrix('z',[1,1]);
sympref('AbbreviateOutput',false);
dot() expands the result, which isn't really desirable for exposition.
eqn = z == dot(x,y)
Also, dot() returns the the result in terms of the conjugate of x, which can't be simplifed away at the symmatrix level
assumeAlso(sym(x),'real')
class(eqn)
try
eqn = z == simplify(dot(x,y))
catch ME
ME.message
end
To get rid of the conjugate, we have to resort to sym
eqn = simplify(sym(eqn))
but again we are in expanded form, which defeats the purpose of symmatrix (et. al.)
But at least we can do this to get a nice equation
eqn = z == x.'*y
dot errors with symfunmatrix inputs
clearvars
syms t real
x = symfunmatrix('x(t)',t,[3,1]); y = symfunmatrix('y(t)',t,[3,1]);
try
dot(x,y)
catch ME
ME.message
end
Cross works (accidentally IMO) with symmatrix, but expands the result, which isn't really desirable for exposition
clearvars
x = symmatrix('x',[3,1]); y = symmatrix('y',[3,1]);
z = symmatrix('z',[3,1]);
eqn = z == cross(x,y)
And it doesn't work at all if an input is a symfunmatrix
syms t
w = symfunmatrix('w(t)',t,[3,1]);
try
eqn = z == cross(x,w);
catch ME
ME.message
end
In the latter case we can expand with
eqn = z == cross(sym(x),symfun(w)) % x has to be converted
But we can't do the same with dot (as shown above, dot doesn't like symfun inputs)
try
eqn = z == dot(sym(x),symfun(w))
catch ME
ME.message
end
Looks like the only choice for dot with symfunmatrix is to write it by hand at the matrix level
x.'*w
or at the sym/symfun level
sym(x).'*symfun(w) % assuming x is real
Ideally, I'd like to see dot and cross implemented for symmatrix and symfunmatrix types where neither function would evaluate, i.e., expand, until both arguments are subs-ed with sym or symfun objects of appropriate dimension.
Also, it would be nice if symmatrix could be assumed to be real. Is there a reason why being able to do so wouldn't make sense?
try
assume(x,'real')
catch ME
ME.message
end
