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Hi,
I want to plot the three roots of c (real and imaginary) as a function of k for the following third-order polynomial equation:
I am using fsolve to code it but this requires three initial guesses which are hard to identify for the given equation.
Any suggestions?
Thank you

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Carola Forlini
Carola Forlini on 6 Feb 2024
Thank you for all the answers.
At the end the easiest way was to calculate first the discriminant of thee polynomio for a range of k and then use the roots function to calculate the solution. In this way I have better control on the expected solutions since the discriminant will tell me if I should have all real roots or real and complex conjugates one.

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Dyuman Joshi
Dyuman Joshi on 3 Feb 2024
Moved: Matt J on 3 Feb 2024
Define the polynomial as a function handle of the variable 'k' and use roots for different values of 'k'.
Also, note that you will need to plot the real and imaginary separately.

Walter Roberson
Walter Roberson on 3 Feb 2024
syms c k L
eqn = c^3 ...
- c^2*(2*k*exp(4*k*L) + 2*k*exp(2*k*L) + exp(4*k*L) - 6*k^2*exp(2*k*L) + 1) / (2*exp(2*k*L) * k * (exp(2*k*L)+1)) ...
- c*(-k*exp(4*k*L) + 2*k*exp(2*k*L) - k + 2*exp(4*k*L) - 2) / (2*exp(2*k*L)*k^2*(exp(2*k*L) + 1)) ...
+ (exp(4*k*L) - 2*exp(2*k*L) + 1) / (2*exp(2*k*L)*k^3*(exp(2*k*L) + 1))
eqn = 
solutions = solve(eqn, c, 'maxdegree', 3)
solutions = 
sol= subs(solutions, L, 2); %arbitrary
%vpa(limit(sol(1), k, 0, 'left'))
%vpa(limit(sol(1), k, 0, 'right'))
tiledlayout('flow');
nexttile(); fplot([real(sol(1)), imag(sol(1))], [-3 3]); title('root #1');
nexttile(); fplot([real(sol(2)), imag(sol(3))], [-5 5]); title('root #2');
nexttile(); fplot([real(sol(3)), imag(sol(3))], [-3 3]); title('root #3');
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Walter Roberson
Walter Roberson on 3 Feb 2024
syms c k L
eqn = c^3 ...
- c^2*(2*k*exp(4*k*L) + 2*k*exp(2*k*L) + exp(4*k*L) - 6*k^2*exp(2*k*L) + 1) / (2*exp(2*k*L) * k * (exp(2*k*L)+1)) ...
- c*(-k*exp(4*k*L) + 2*k*exp(2*k*L) - k + 2*exp(4*k*L) - 2) / (2*exp(2*k*L)*k^2*(exp(2*k*L) + 1)) ...
+ (exp(4*k*L) - 2*exp(2*k*L) + 1) / (2*exp(2*k*L)*k^3*(exp(2*k*L) + 1));
solutions = solve(eqn, c, 'maxdegree', 3);
sol= subs(solutions, L, 2); %arbitrary
%vpa(limit(sol(1), k, 0, 'left'))
%vpa(limit(sol(1), k, 0, 'right'))
tiledlayout('flow');
%nexttile(); fplot([real(sol(1)), imag(sol(1))], [-3 3]); title('root #1');
%nexttile(); fplot([real(sol(2)), imag(sol(3))], [-5 5]); title('root #2');
nexttile(); fplot([real(sol(3)), imag(sol(3))], [-1 1]); title('root #3');
Walter Roberson
Walter Roberson on 3 Feb 2024
syms c k L
eqn = c^3 ...
- c^2*(2*k*exp(4*k*L) + 2*k*exp(2*k*L) + exp(4*k*L) - 6*k^2*exp(2*k*L) + 1) / (2*exp(2*k*L) * k * (exp(2*k*L)+1)) ...
- c*(-k*exp(4*k*L) + 2*k*exp(2*k*L) - k + 2*exp(4*k*L) - 2) / (2*exp(2*k*L)*k^2*(exp(2*k*L) + 1)) ...
+ (exp(4*k*L) - 2*exp(2*k*L) + 1) / (2*exp(2*k*L)*k^3*(exp(2*k*L) + 1));
solutions = solve(eqn, c, 'maxdegree', 3);
sol= subs(solutions, L, 2); %arbitrary
vpa(limit(sol(3), k, 0, 'left'))
ans = 
vpa(limit(sol(3), k, 0, 'right'))
ans = 

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